“This is the equivalent to having Hitler’s statue in a Jewish community.”
In a debate on a Virginia street, protesters demanding a Confederate monument be removed explain how its symbolism harms their community, as others criticize its vandalism. https://abcn.ws/3hmqfxm
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Life must be pretty good if we're wasting our time on statues.
Application of liquid soap or poly-bore on the statue and around it would make pulling the statue down a comedy.
wake the f..k up people, we have grown, out of this nonsense, please under stand, the high, people want us all divided, to make us all weaker, sepratlely, but if we all stand as one we will be very strong together, as one, as we should now.
Girl really tried to compare confederacy to the Nazis. Slavery was terrible, but come on.
More President Trump voters… thank you libtards
To those opposing taking down statue's. Why are we honoring the losers anyway? These people fought to gave the right to OWN other people. They turned against the USA. What they did was commit treason. If you want to argue its history, fine. Keep statues at Gettysburg and other prominent battlefields. Why do we not have a statue of Osama and the hijackers at Gound zero, the Pentagon or shanksville? Because it would offend EVERYONE. Why no statues of Hitler, Mao Sa Tung, because it's history that would offend people. Do why do you not have a problem with this offending black people? Because it's not offending YOU. And that is what makes you racist, by not being able to understand.
1:16 "They do not know what that statue belongs to"
Take down Abraham Lincoln statue
Imagine growing up without knowing the USA racist past
Out with nazi symbols!
Nat Turner come on lady. Really
WHOSE YOUR DADDY……AND WHAT DOES HE DO
YAY……WE ALL WIN
THAT'S RIGHT ! SO…..THERE !
These statues represent the road we traveled to get to today. Not who we are, it’s history. Shame some think that something that happened over 100 years ago can be an excuse for their agenda. Shame on you shame on politicians for being bullied
"It is a misfortune for the dead man,
that his enemy survived him,
and wrote his story."
Friedrich von Schiller
Sadly, this is what many consider a debate. Yes, destroy history and it will be repeated.
As a Third person, I can say about them 'unlearned'
No matter what your race or who you are, if you are the citizen of that country, we should show our respect, to our ancestors who contributed today's world, today's country. Cuz of them, we can exist, we can live in this country, we can live in this world. Yeah much better world than before. We should commemorate their sacrifices, the things they achieved. I know they're annoy and angry about racism, the history of racism and based on that culture but no matter what your race or who you are, remember that's your home country, and you belong to them. And they were pioneers of the land where you live now.
My country was one of the poorest country in before, but the hard efforts of old generations, now we became quite wealth. So I wanna remind it once again, cuz of their noble sacrifices and their efforts, now we can exists, can live in better world than before.
And I'm neither American nor Black person but I can say that my race also have been treated not good. Cuz many Asians had to experienced a lot of discrimination from many people. Ofc we also feel frustrated, annoyed about this matter too. but we should trying to solve this problems peacefully without violence and crime.
Cuz violence and crime are never helpful to solve this problems. It rather engender much more conflicts&hatred.
put them in a fucking museum. Take them down change the names of the confederate streets. we don't need that as a reminder of the history of the brutal murder and slavery. This is a fight for freedom
Jesus Christ said, " He who is without sin cast the first stone."
Wonder how the left would feel rip down malcom x statue and burn the rainbow flag?
I don’t care if it’s your heritage, that doesn’t change anything, kind of funny how these people defending the confederate flag and monuments consider themselves patriots, the confederates rebelled against the United States, they were not only racist bigots but they were also traitors to the union, the civil war only benefitted the rich southern plantation owners so they could keep there slaves and not be taxed, the people in power in the south tricked the southern peasant farmers to rebel and fight for no reason other than keeping slavery, but they didn’t know that, that’s why I don’t blame the confederate soldiers, the confederate soldiers thought they were fighting for honor and states rights, but they were sadly dying only to keep the riches slaves, not only was the confederate racist and stood for hate for colored people, it also corrupted its own people.
You can wave your flag all you want and say it’s your heritage, you’re still a ignorant traitor bigot in my book.
How dare you call yourselves Americans when you're taking your proest to violence
He said y not a MLK Statue😂😂
Freedoms of speach .the statue belongs to all of us..just like MLK
People don't even know the real history of the civil war…they are told lies just as the main stream media does today! You wanna know what a Real white supremacist sounds like,then here's one from the National Archives:
Fourth Debate: Charleston, Illinois
September 18, 1858
Eleven railroad cars of people from Indiana were among the approximately 12,000 in attendance.
Answering Douglas' charge made in Jonosboro that he favored racial equality Lincoln explained his views on race. Lincoln then charged that Douglas was plotting to create a constitution for Kansas without allowing it to be voted upon by the people of Kansas. Lincoln gave a detailed "history" of the 'Nebraska Bill' [Kansas-Nebraska Act] and explained a conspiracy existed to nationalize slavery.
Douglas denied any conspiracy with Roger Taney, Franklin Pierce, and James Buchanon and restated the charge that Lincoln favored equality of the races.
Source: Neely, Mark E. Jr. 1982. The Abraham Lincoln Encyclopedia. New York: Da Capo Press, Inc.
Full text of the debate follows.
Mr. Lincoln's Speech
Mr. Lincoln took the stand at a quarter before three, and was greeted with vociferous and protracted applause; after which, he said:
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN: It will be very difficult for an audience so large as this to hear distinctly what a speaker says, and consequently it is important that as profound silence be preserved as possible.
While I was at the hotel to-day, an elderly gentleman called upon me to know whether I was really in favor of producing a perfect equality between the negroes and white people. [Great Laughter.] While I had not proposed to myself on this occasion to say much on that subject, yet as the question was asked me I thought I would occupy perhaps five minutes in saying something in regard to it. I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, [applause]-that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied every thing. I do not understand that because I do not want a negro woman for a slave I must necessarily want her for a wife. [Cheers and laughter.] My understanding is that I can just let her alone. I am now in my fiftieth year, and I certainly never have had a black woman for either a slave or a wife. So it seems to me quite possible for us to get along without making either slaves or wives of negroes. I will add to this that I have never seen, to my knowledge, a man, woman or child who was in favor of producing a perfect equality, social and political, between negroes and white men. I recollect of but one distinguished instance that I ever heard of so frequently as to be entirely satisfied of its correctness-and that is the case of Judge Douglas's old friend Col. Richard M. Johnson. [Laughter.] I will also add to the remarks I have made (for I am not going to enter at large upon this subject,) that I have never had the least apprehension that I or my friends would marry negroes if there was no law to keep them from it, [laughter] but as Judge Douglas and his friends seem to be in great apprehension that they might, if there were no law to keep them from it, [roars of laughter] I give him the most solemn pledge that I will to the very last stand by the law of this State, which forbids the marrying of white people with negroes. [Continued laughter and applause.] I will add one further word, which is this: that I do not understand that there is any place where an alteration of the social and political relations of the negro and the white man can be made except in the State Legislature-not in the Congress of the United States-and as I do not really apprehend the approach of any such thing myself, and as Judge Douglas seems to be in constant horror that some such danger is rapidly approaching, I propose as the best means to prevent it that the Judge be kept at home and placed in the State Legislature to fight the measure. [Uproarious laughter and applause.] I do not propose dwelling longer at this time on this subject.
The Civil War was never about slavery…..it never has been,the victor of every war in history always writes it's history!
Whites of this caliber will never try to understand regardless if you spit facts to them until you're blue in the face
Replace it with a statue of Fredo Cuomo giving Don Lemon a sponge bath
Americans, you cannot change history by defacing monuments. Whatever you had in the past is very much part of your history. Honor your history because it has brought you to where you are now. Secondly, the State owns those statues and monuments, it's a crime to destroy them, you call it vandalism. One reason you can never move on or move forward is because of your anger and vengedul hatred for your past. You need to go back to God, pray for healing of the bad memories. For generations, you have not allowed yourselves to be healed. God bless America, once a great nation!
They are disrespecting black Confederate veterans
It's no too late to learn that respect has to come from both sides to make peace.
There is no way to make peace, if people revenge,
Someone has to turn off fire.
Peace and respect from all to all.
For
Has anyone really stepped back and thought about something. Their letting you remove the statue because you are removing the evidence of your history once you remove all the evidence what do you think is going to happen. The removal of your rights in the future your grandchildren will lose their benefit and rights your grandparents worked so hard to get. Government is standing their Laughing at you think about it people. Why has it been so easy to get them removed. Because government wants you to lose your evidence so they can remove your power in the future. It's funny how people don't think these days.
Put up a statue of Dorie Miller, he did alot for this country. Wonder how many black people know who he is. He was the first black man who was awarded the Navy Cross for his action in WWII during the attack on Pearl Harbor. He was a mess cook and even though he never fired a gun before, he man a Anti Aircraft gun of the Battleship West Virginia and shot down Japanese Aircraft. He fought for black and white lives.
I care about us remembering our history. That's what monuments are for predominantly is to put a spotlight on things we must never forget, good or bad. So no I wouldn't want a monument honoring Hitler, but I would be just fine having one designed to continually remind us what a horrible person he was and the prominent things that allowed him to do those horrible things so we can keep them from happening ever again. I don't want history to be watered down so as to be non-offensive to the point that society as a whole forgets the horrible things that happened, which allows them to be more easily repeated in the future. I don't want us to turn into 1984. I don't want us to do things like book burning under the NAZIS or the full destruction of our history like what happened in China during the Cultural Revolution. Your hurt feelings are not more important than remembering history, and I don't apologize for saying that.
Why did he cut her off like that. Let this beautiful queen speak those facts ✊🏽
Why don’t we build a statue of Osama Bin Ladin . He’s part of history too. Oh yeah that’s because we don’t honor evil people by creating statues of them…
I mean while these people were pro-slavery and everything 1.slavery would go out of business in the next 50 or so years 2.they still fought and died for what they believed which is respectable 3.they are all dead, stop bitching 4.they have done nothing to harm you 5. It’s disrespectful to vandalize a memorial
"We aren't hear to argue" ? but isnt that how we progress? civil discourse leading to two rational individuals improving their perspective? Idk, this whole anti conversation thing just irks me. not matter what your opinion is, you have to understand your bubble is only a crutch. Even if you don't change your mind, learning to take criticism of your views and refining them is a good experience.
Axe
i have better idea. leave the USA. the founding fathers of usa were slave owner. george washington thomas jefferson. sure they won't want to be the citizen of slave owner build country
Protesters are going to get sick
A Thomas Jefferson statue was just ripped down by a Mob. In the UK statues have neen vandalized including 1 of Winston Churchill and a war memorial.
If it's not gone we will get rid of it..nomore talking times up…times up….times up……times up….
I would be in favour, by and large, of the removal of most Confederate monuments, but not all. Most of those monuments invariably stand for racism and the institution of slavery, but the military monuments, the ones that commemorate the great battles that were fought between the Union and the Confederacy, should remain intact. Those monuments that honour the soldiers and the officers that fought in the Civil War, should remain intact, not because of the issues some of them stood for, but for the men themselves, the ones that shed their blood and shared their food with brothers and family on the other side. The strategic brilliance of Ulysses Grant and Robert E. Lee should be remembered and studied. Those things that commemorated those individuals that openly and proudly stood for the issues in question, such as Nathan Bedford Forrest, should be taken down, their names and visages preserved only in history texts, so that we may remember the lessons they taught without having to honour what they stood for. As for the issues in question, both racism and slavery are older than the Confederacy itself, nearly as old as civilisation itself. Taking down monuments to these institutions and renaming streets and schools will not make the issues go away — this is an emotionally driven and ill-thought out response to the latest instance of police brutality, and it could have been handled much better than this. While I agree that most monuments to the CSA and the Civil War should be removed, I do not agree with the method being used or with the obvious end goal of wiping out an era of American history from living memory. If we learn anything at all from this, it should be that those who do not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.
We must remember.
Vandalism is vandalism and those who commit it should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They should be made an example till others understand this is NOT the way to enact change. Besides, if they wait another 20 yrs, , those who really care will have passed away. Then they can destroy the world all they want.
I say from looking through the comments, more than half of you are ignorant, part of the problem in the world and aren’t smart or brave enough to stand for for something worth standing for. What is fueling your hate and apathy?
BLM is using the black people to disrupt topics like this and other racial issues. Because they no they have the power to make the whites feel guilty. That leads to the whites breaking out the check book to fund their organization