Santa Fe County press conference of ‘Rust’ movie-set shooting analysis

ABC News’ Kaylee Hartung and Dan Abrams breakdown the key points in Wednesday afternoon’s press conference.

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31 thoughts on “Santa Fe County press conference of ‘Rust’ movie-set shooting analysis

  1. I will never watch Dan Abrams again after the DISGUSTING WAY he treats the guy who was a good friend of Haylana and a co worker for many years, almost dies and holds his best friend of many years does die in his arms and he called the guy basically A GOLD DIGGING CLOUT CHASER for filing a lawsuit. OMG DAN ABRAMS YOU DISGUST ME FOREVER!!!! HOW DARE YOU!!!!
    🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

  2. All guns should be treated as if they are loaded. Alec ignored this and pointed the gun at the director and pulled the trigger. While others may face some criminal liability, he acted with negligence but the media is working overtime to find someone else to blame.

  3. There are rumors that the guns were used for target practice, with live rounds, by certain crew members on off hours. The Sheriff's department is probably scouring the set, for spent munitions, to check if this rumor has merit.

  4. Why in the heck is a real gun, and real bullets on the set??? A gun must be checked multiple times snd one more when they give it to the actor. This is blatant laziness, and a step to saving money… everyone responsible for that gun need to be held accountable…. Sadly Alec could take the fall for this… so very sad

  5. At the end of day – regardless of any pending charges against anyone – Alec has to live with the fact he pulled the trigger that killed a person, which I would not want for anyone!

  6. Alec Baldwin as an actor has no culpability in this. Alec Baldwin as one of the producers of the movie may have some culpability though. However my understanding is the title of producer can simply be given to an actor for movie credit reasons, not as they are acting as an actual hands on producer. It was said that as many as 10 people on this movie had been allocated the title of producer.

  7. I’m a union professional. That girl armorer and the 1st AD better start looking for another career. And the fact that the girls father is a Hollywood pro is despicable. what did she even learn?

  8. Employers endanger their employees to reduce cost and/or increase profits whether it is a movie set or a chicken processing plant.
    A thorough investigation and a trial of those involved will go a long way into not only changine conditions on a movie set but on the national level help to improve conditions for all emplyoyees.

  9. What a total waste of a human being’s life!
    This is so terrifying, if I were working in that industry, I will never allow myself or any of my loved ones around guns in sets, even if they say it’s just a fake prop. Never!

  10. Have you see clips of the 'head armorer' on this set and one other ? If Alec is the producer, and hired this person (whose daddy is famous) then you gotta wonder. That hire, is truly a wonder.

  11. AND ON OCT 18, HAYNA, WHOSE HUSBAND IS A CLINTON LAWYER, TWEETED SHE HAD INFORMATION THAT WOULD LEAD TO HILLARY CLINTONS ARREST. TWO SET MEMBERS SAID ALEC AIMED THE GUN AT HER AND FIRED WITHOUT REQUIRED MOVIE SET PROTOCAL OF FIRST FIRING ALL CHAMBERS INTO THE GROUND WHEN USING A REAL GUN ON THE SET.

  12. In this instance CV19 safety issues and budget were apparently put ahead of weapon safety issues…..and working back through the timeline, the events appear negligent and reckless beyond imagination.

    1. The weapon Baldwin used was a fully functioning .45 Long Colt revolver pistol, and not some sort of stunt gun. Apparently prior to lunch break the armorer had laid out three revolvers on an unsecured cart at the church location to be used as needed. There is also an alternate version of events where the revolvers were secured over lunch, and then put on the cart by the armorer after lunch. The revolvers were believed to be loaded with blanks. 

    The cast and crew had returned from a separate lunch location to the church location. The Assistant Director apparently picked one of the revolvers from the cart (and not directly from the armorer) and did not clear the weapon. Again, there is an alternate version of events where the armorer cleared the weapon for the AD, and a third version of events where the armorer partially cleared the weapon for the AD… in the third the AD only recalls seeing three blanks and not seeing all of they cylinders. Regardless of the version of events the AD called the revolver "cold" and passed it to Baldwin, who also did not clear the revolver as it was passed to him. 

    The camera was being reset and not active, and Baldwin was sitting in a church pew practicing his cross-draw and aiming of the revolver when it discharged. Baldwin says he aimed at the revolver at the camera, while the point of impact of the round from the revolver was Halyna's upper body. Halyna would not normally be behind the camera for this shot, however the camera was being re-set due to shifting light which temporarily placed her behind the camera, and Halyna was there to kill.

    In this process of events numerous normal procedures of weapon handling were not followed. The AD broke RULE #1, and Baldwin broke all four, of the FOUR RULES OF GUN HANDLlNG:
    #1 RULE Treat every weapon as if it's loaded, even if you're told it isn't.
    #2 RULE Never point a gun at anything you do not intend to kill or destroy.
    #3 RULE Never put your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to kill or destroy something.
    #4 RULE Know where your target is, and what is behind it.

    2. The cart is where the CV19 issue comes in. Normally the armorer would secure the weapon until it was called for. At the time the weapon was called for the armorer would produce the revolver, clear the revolver and verify it was empty, and load the blanks in front of the AD/actor/whomever was going to handle it or was interested in the revolver on set. This process should have been repeated at every exchange of the revolver, from the armorer to the AD, and from the AD to Baldwin. With responsible gun handling Baldwin would have cleared and verified the revolver each time he picked it up. If Baldwin felt he was not competent to clear the revolver he would have asked the armorer to do do for him. The reputed use of the cart and casual handling of the revolver at each exchange and after lunch apparently defeated the normal two-party verification checks.

    Supposedly because of a CV19 protocol intended to minimize human to human contact, the weapon handling procedures were modified with the three revolvers pre-loaded with blanks and set on a cart to be available for use as needed. If this is true, and if the weapons were not securely maintained between uses as props, or proven by the exchanging parties to be secure at each exchange, this is an extraordinary breach of set protocol where CV19 protocol was placed ahead of weapon safety issues. 

    As far as budget cost-cutting issues, another armorer reports "I turned the job opportunity down on Rust because I felt it was completely unsafe…" as the producers of the film combined two separate jobs into one — prop master and armorer — to save money. “… there were great concerns about that, and they didn’t really respond to my concerns about that… You never have a prop assistant double as the armorer… Those are two really big jobs.”

    3. This still leaves the significant issues of both the revolver being loaded, and of where the live round came from. Live rounds are never supposed to be on a set. There were over 500 rounds of ammunition on the set and the authorities are verifying what is live. There are 3 or more initial paths where the revolver could have loaded with live ammo:

    A. The armorer mis-loaded the gun, mistaking live ammunition for blanks, which is very unlikely as the physical differences are immediately apparent.

    B. There are stories some of the crew had been using the unsecured revolver for target practice with live ammunition, and loose live ammunition supposedly has been recovered by law enforcement. There may be some chain of events whereby target practice by some of the crew led to the live round being in the revolver at the time Baldwin used it for cross-draw and point to shoot practice.

    C. There have also been insinuations the prior disputes may have contributed to the live ammunition on the set, as, if there was easy access to a cart used to store ammunition or provide access to the weapons, the easy access to the cart could have provided a temptation for anyone wanting to make a point of lax gun handling procedures..

  13. WHY CANT WE GET A SINGLE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CONFERENCE LIKE THIS, WITH REPORTERS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE PRESIDENT IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CURRENT STATE OF THIS COUNTRY?!?!?!?!

  14. If they found live bullets on the set, the armourer were making blank bullets there. This goes against every norm and is a recipe for disaster.

  15. Aside from Alec what about the other producers it’s their responsibility to pay experience prop master and or armor their was students handling these responsibilities job tasks

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