Post analysis of Texas DPS director’s update on school shooting

Husband of Uvalde teacher killed in shooting has died of a heart attack.

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41 thoughts on “Post analysis of Texas DPS director’s update on school shooting

  1. If they were so out manned by one guy why not recruit civilians to help? They were more than willing to go in and help. The truth is they were too scared to do their job.

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  3. Lots of big hats with little brains on show. Don't ever expect too much of non proffesionals, don't forget Police learn on the job, just like window cleaners or road sweepers. The proffessionals are the CSI guys, police are stupid and nothing more than goafers and bullies.

  4. Investigate but tackle the causes also.
    Children do deserve better. 4500 died due to guns in 2020.

    As a person with generally more Republican than democratic leanings, I resent the fact that preventing the death of children and adults by guns is a partisan issue.

    ** No politicians should take money from the NRA as a starter. Politics in America needs to change.

    The number of deaths in 9-11 was 2996. Gun violence resulted in 45000 deaths in 2020. 10% were children or teens i.e. 4500.Within the numbers for adults, 65% of those gun deaths were the result of suicides, while 30% were from homicides. For teens and kids, those percentages are roughly flipped.

    As a person with generally more Republican than democratic leanings, I resent the fact that preventing the death of children and adults by guns is a partisan issue. ** No politicians should take money from the NRA as a starter. Politics in America needs to change.

    The number of deaths in 9-11 was 2996. Gun violence resulted in 45000 deaths in 2020. 10% were children or teens i.e. 4500.Within the numbers for adults, 65% of those gun deaths were the result of suicides, while 30% were from homicides. For teens and kids, those percentages are roughly flipped.

    Restricting guns should not be a partisan issue and is only this because of NRA lobbying and political money given.

    "I heard an NRA person saying that schools should have people trained with guns".

    Then they will need checks in case they have sadistic leanings and what happens if someone doesn't show up and those people injure or abuse children.

    "it was the mad person with the gun, not the guns fault."" The reporter correctly said that if the person didn't have the gun.. to which the guy interjected that shootings happen in gun free areas such as church.

    The point was that obviously that if people did not have guns, the tragedy cannot happen. It tackles the root cause.

    "The door was left open".

    It wasn't the door that killed the children – it was the gun under the control of an 18 year old who just went and bought it with no checks whatsoever.

    There is no need to walk around with an automatic or semi-automatic gun and high capacity magazine. never mind getting one with no background checks.

    "Mental Health"

    The US has far more gun deaths than anywhere else and I don’t think this is because they have more mental issues. It is about gun availability and access.

    The unrestricted obtaining of the guns by an 18 year old or anyone is ridiculous.If politicians thought of the children as their own things would be different.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41488081

    America's gun culture – in seven charts

    Comparison of the US compared with the rest of the world

    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/03/24/980838151/gun-violence-deaths-how-the-u-s-compares-to-the-rest-of-the-world?t=1653600317394

    Mass Shootings

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/

    https://time.com/6170864/cause-of-death-children-guns/

    According to a research letter published recently in the New England Journal of Medicine, firearm-related deaths went up by 13% between 2019 and 2020. However, firearm deaths for people aged 1-19 increased by a massive 30%. In total there were 45,222 deaths as a result of gun violence in 2020, the research letter says. Around 10% of those deaths were children and teens. Within the numbers for adults, 65% of those gun deaths were the result of suicides, while 30% were from homicides. For teens and kids, those percentages are roughly flipped.

    The NRA should not be allowed to fund and corrupt the politicians.

    I note that some politicians argue that they agree with pro-life when it comes to abortion and not pro-life of children.So is it that those politicians are happy for the baby to become a child and then ..? I do not think so if it was their child.

    "The NRA argue that it is not the gun, but the person."

    Well then can I have hand grenades , missiles and nukes to protect myself.

    "Background checks"

    The NRA just said it was the person and not the gun. So background checks are justified.

    This boy killer may not have been prevented by background checks but may have been, and may have made people aware of his mindset or put him off getting a gun. He should never had access to a (semi)automatic weapon.

    The fact that background checks should occur would prevent people with serious problems from harming themselves or others. Do you need an automatic gun and a high capacity magazine?

    "Bruh you realize we can’t even ban drugs how are we gonna ban guns Lmao"

    Most people who use guns recreationally will not be willing to go against the law and illegally order one and get a criminal record which may affect their life and put them in jail. Most people would not want to buy one illegally off the streets.

    "You will make it illegal to own guns"

    That is not the aim.

    There is no justification for having semi/automatic guns in the community. Never mind the right to hold one. I have been educated as I was told an AR-15 was used and I was silly as I did not know it was semi-automatic.

    I did not know it was AR-15 and just heard automatic. The point is that it can fire 46 rounds per minute and kill/injure lots of children/people/policeman very quickly.

    https://checkyourfact.com/2018/02/24/fact-check-ar-15-bullets-a-second/ According to the Bushmaster AR-15 manual, the firearm has a maximum effective rate of 45 rounds per minute

    https://usarmorment.com/pdf/opmanual.pdf

    Can be easily converted to a fully automatic weapon.

    Role of AR-15 in mass shootings:

    https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/1101274322/uvalde-ar-15-style-rifle-history-shooter-mass-shooting

    "Criminals don’t obey the law"

    This boy was not previously a criminal. As the figures indicate in adults a large number of the people commit suicide.

    In children, it is homicide that causes the deaths. I have included a reference to mass shootings. Look it up.

    Wikepedia says The motive for mass shootings (which occur in public situations) is a defining feature in that they are usually committed by deeply disgruntled individuals seeking revenge or payback for failures in school, career, romance and life in general and uses the reference

    Bjelopera, Jerome P. (March 18, 2013). "Public Mass Shootings in the United States: Selected Implications for Federal Public Health and Safety Policy" (PDF). CRS Report for Congress.

    Note the number of suicides in adults. They are likely not criminals looking to hurt other people.

    By restricting guns it will be harder for the criminals to get hold of guns. Reduced circulation of guns may be done by possible compensation, and a temporary amnesty period for holding certain types of gun, or to time to get a license.

    "They will get guns through the dark web"

    Why is death through guns less common in other countries then? They have a dark web also.

    "Guns are needed for protection"

    Another argument is that the guns are needed to protect yourself. Literature shows that guns are seldom used for protection.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/602143823/how-often-do-people-use-guns-in-self-defense

    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/

    "It is my constitutional right"

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/second_amendment

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    The constitution was written in the 1700s. There should not be militia. It mentions arms not guns. Can I please buy some nukes and missiles then?

    So, I have been educated. Have you?

    Money from NRA

    https://elections.bradyunited.org/take-action/nra-donations-116th-congress-senators

    https://fortune.com/2022/05/25/nra-contributions-politicians-lobbying-gun-rights-groups-record-2021-ted-cruz/

    https://fortune.com/2019/08/21/how-much-did-nra-contribute-trump-campaign/

    Abbot-

    https://www.texastribune.org/2021/06/16/texas-constitutional-carry-greg-abbott/

    TEXAS LEGISLATURE 2021

    Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1, after Gov. Greg Abbott signs permitless carry bill into law

    CDC

    https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/firearms/fastfact.html

    Public research

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/

    https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-violence-statistics/

    Donald Trump after the school shooting and talking to children said He said the time for change had come and it wasn't going to be just talk. (see https://youtu.be/Je-89pC2YYw 'Fix it!' – Florida shooting survivors meet Donald Trump and urge him to change gun laws). He said their would be action and then changed his mind. He was thinking about votes and money.

    Having had sympathies for Trump when he came to power, I have none now. I thought him having money meant he would not be swayed by lobby groups. I was wrong. He promised children he would do something after the shooting 3-4 years ago. He did not. He received financial support from the NRA in his election campaign – see below.

    Trump did nothing.

    He says he is pro-life when it comes to abortion.He is not pro-life of children.

    .

    I listened to Abbots re looking at the causes and taking action/not just talk just as Donald Trump did 3-4 years ago. He said he wasn't responsible for rule changes. He went on to dismiss background checks with the reason being that they don't always work. What a jerk.

    Abbot talked about mental health treatment being improved and was clearly already making excuses. Shame on him.

  5. Why cops behavior was so against intervention? Usually they storm for a chocolate robbery but here, NOTHING!
    I see again people relying on god, well where was go'd when those kids have been killed? Sorry I am agnostic and praying is just useless…!

  6. Cowards, just cowards and paralyzed by FEAR, so why are you a policeman? They were just waiting for somebody else to do it, 😢 SAD

  7. Does anyone know if the FBI is in Ulvalde investigating? I haven’t heard that but perhaps I missed that. I don’t feel that Uvalde of are credible.

  8. You have no right to judge those cops and just deputies or anybody that’s in the law-enforcement do you walk in their shoes don’t criticize

  9. It is DISGUSTING what so many AMERICANS AND SERBS have done to our MUSLIM Women and young Girls ( I do not hate on Serbian and American girls at all ) but I wish my MUSLIM brothers would man up and chase their girls ,as the AMERICAN government ruined my precious life( TARGETED me)

  10. While I side with the officers who stood outside carefully evaluated the situation before storming in, I do wonder if their actions would be any different if the majority of these kids are Caucasian. Not accusing these officers to be stereotype or anything, just from my pure observation.

  11. Local Cops in Cowboy Hats didn't think Mexican Kids were worth their life to risk. So they sat on their asses and waited for Border Patrol to do the job they should have done. Go back and check these cowboy hat cops and check their social media accounts and see if they're involved with any anti-immigrant
    militias or racist hate groups.

    Just to be sure.

  12. These cops are all cowards, they did not have the guts to go in and save the kids, they did not let the parents see their kids, and they waited so long until they finally took action. By the time they arrived kids were probably already dead.

  13. 1
    For it is written,

    Hebrews 9:27

    27 Just as human beings have to die once, but after this comes judgment,

    Ecclesiastes 7

    17 But don’t be overly wicked, and don’t be foolish;
    why should you die before your time?

  14. The blood of these children is on the hands of the LEOs who failed to act. Since Columbine all cops train to the same active shooter standards. Diamond formation or triangle if only 3 officers, find the shooter and neutralize the threat. We never wait for SWAT or ERT. My heart aches for the children who died needlessly.

  15. According to their own facebook page,…the Uvalde P.D. took part in activesh00ter training at the local high school just two months ago in preparation FOR THE DRILL THIS WEEK AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL…They were actually waiting for word from local DHS to begin the drill, which took over an hour…..it's busted…there is no way that anybody died.

  16. Uvalde Police Dept's wrong decision is the best reason to pass useful, effective gun laws to keep guns out of the hands of people that should never own them! Police and school staff are only human and therefore subject to making mistakes– like not entering the school right away or failing to keep a door locked. If we take measures to prevent this from happening in the first place, then we remove the possibility for human error in these terrible situations.

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