Former counsel to Mike Pence testifies at Jan. 6 committee hearing

“The framers of our Constitution would never have entrusted any one person with the unilateral authority to alter the outcome of a presidential election,” Greg Jacob said.

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31 thoughts on “Former counsel to Mike Pence testifies at Jan. 6 committee hearing

  1. Never have I witnessed such incompetence by an administration in the US. Racial divide is at an all time high, murders, killings, funerals, rape, wars, the blaming others, drugs, crime, suicides, food prices, energy, gasoline, all rising with this useless administration. My Black and Latino friends, let us all, end this misery come November.

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  2. The lawyer needs to review the statute. The decision if there is an objection is made by the two houses of congress. The VP had a duty to refer the issue to the two houses of Congress if an objection was made. The VP got bad legal advice. In one scenario, the dispute is refered to a state tribinal of the relevant state. This should have been done.

  3. The lawyer needs to review the statute. The decision if there is an objection is made by the two houses of congress. The VP had a duty to refer the issue to the two houses of Congress if an objection was made. The VP got bad legal advice. In one scenario, the dispute is refered to a state tribinal of the relevant state. This should have been done.

  4. I don't think Pence acted in bad faith. I do think he got very bad legal advice. If he is a lawyer, he did a piss poor job of reading the statute. The corrupt FBI, DOJ, Dem Congress, etc. lies about everything Trump and abuses him and those around him.

  5. What we have is ignorant people who have not read the statute claiming that a dispute over what a statute means must be resolved in one way despite the words of the statute and anyone such as Trump who reads the statute different is a seditionist. It is very obvious that Trump and Eastman read it right. In other words, there is a procedure to resolve disputes like this. It should have been honored. These are blabbering idiots and their idiotic blabbering has been ongoing for nearly 6 years.

  6. The truth is that Pence did exactly what he claimed he did not do. He decided the dispute against Trump unilaterally as one man. What he should have done assuming there was one signature of a senator and one signature of a Congress man was refer the issue to some combination of the Senate, House, and State tribunal for resolution. That is the statute. I don't know if he is a lawyer, but his lawyer gave him bad advice.

  7. The lawyer needs to review the statute. The decision if there is an objection is made by the two houses of congress. The VP had a duty to refer the issue to the two houses of Congress if an objection was made. The VP got bad legal advice. In one scenario, the dispute is refered to a state tribinal of the relevant state. This should have been done.

  8. It is a shame that these people cannot be honest. An objection requires two signatures one by a senator and one by a congressman. If this occurs the VP is to refer the objections for decision by the senate and the house. The votes may be rejected if the house and the senate agree on the objection. If more than one paper of purported electors exist, a determination is made which is valid and that is done by the State Tribunal later confirmed by the two houses of Congres. This is exactly the procedure Trump sought to invoke. And you are flat out liar saying invoking this procedure is somehow wrong. The states had invoked election procedures inconsistent with their laws (changed by election officials). The election procedures were unlawful. .

    Congress shall be in session on the sixth day of January succeeding every meeting of the electors. The Senate and House of Representatives shall meet in the Hall of the House of Representatives at the hour of 1 o’clock in the afternoon on that day, and the President of the Senate shall be their presiding officer. Two tellers shall be previously appointed on the part of the Senate and two on the part of the House of Representatives, to whom shall be handed, as they are opened by the President of the Senate, all the certificates and papers purporting to be certificates of the electoral votes, which certificates and papers shall be opened, presented, and acted upon in the alphabetical order of the States, beginning with the letter A; and said tellers, having then read the same in the presence and hearing of the two Houses, shall make a list of the votes as they shall appear from the said certificates; and the votes having been ascertained and counted according to the rules in this subchapter provided, the result of the same shall be delivered to the President of the Senate, who shall thereupon announce the state of the vote, which announcement shall be deemed a sufficient declaration of the persons, if any, elected President and Vice President of the United States, and, together with a list of the votes, be entered on the Journals of the two Houses. Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper, the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any. Every objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received. When all objections so made to any vote or paper from a State shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw, and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision; and the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, in like manner, submit such objections to the House of Representatives for its decision; and no electoral vote or votes from any State which shall have been regularly given by electors whose appointment has been lawfully certified to according to section 6 of this title from which but one return has been received shall be rejected, but the two Houses concurrently may reject the vote or votes when they agree that such vote or votes have not been so regularly given by electors whose appointment has been so certified. If more than one return or paper purporting to be a return from a State shall have been received by the President of the Senate, those votes, and those only, shall be counted which shall have been regularly given by the electors who are shown by the determination mentioned in section 5 of this title to have been appointed, if the determination in said section provided for shall have been made, or by such successors or substitutes, in case of a vacancy in the board of electors so ascertained, as have been appointed to fill such vacancy in the mode provided by the laws of the State; but in case there shall arise the question which of two or more of such State authorities determining what electors have been appointed, as mentioned in section 5 of this title, is the lawful tribunal of such State, the votes regularly given of those electors, and those only, of such State shall be counted whose title as electors the two Houses, acting separately, shall concurrently decide is supported by the decision of such State so authorized by its law; and in such case of more than one return or paper purporting to be a return from a State, if there shall have been no such determination of the question in the State aforesaid, then those votes, and those only, shall be counted which the two Houses shall concurrently decide were cast by lawful electors appointed in accordance with the laws of the State, unless the two Houses, acting separately, shall concurrently decide such votes not to be the lawful votes of the legally appointed electors of such State. But if the two Houses shall disagree in respect of the counting of such votes, then, and in that case, the votes of the electors whose appointment shall have been certified by the executive of the State, under the seal thereof, shall be counted. When the two Houses have voted, they shall immediately again meet, and the presiding officer shall then announce the decision of the questions submitted. No votes or papers from any other State shall be acted upon until the objections previously made to the votes or papers from any State shall have been finally disposed of.

  9. If these lying turds really believed their nonsense, they would do this in Court where the subject of their hate had an opportunity to respond. This is no better than the sleazy FBI / DOJ who prosecuted their Russia lies in the media not in any court. By the way, indicting Russians who would never appear in Court is just BS. Further, every one of those FBI / DOJ sleazes would be subject to indictment in Russian Courts if Russia had a legal system as dishonest as them (every one of them made statements that could influence Russian elections in other words they made insulting statements about the Russian leader; the U.S. has tried to affect politics in Russia for decades and many other countries sometimes with B52s and other weapons; further, those Russians with respect to the U.S. whether physically in the U.S. or communicating in ways that reach the U.S. have a right to free speech as constitutional rights apply to foreigners in the U.S.; when the corrupt sleazy FBI / DOJ starts censuring the speech of foreigners censuring the speech of citizens is not too far behind as we have seen). These people are so devoid of merit they have to censor their opponents. Notice how they never say what these Russians said on FaceBook or whatever but they admit it did not affect any votes. Meanwhile, Hillary ran around bragging that a list of countries supposedly endorsed her. And she got foreign money. She did what she accused Trump of doing. Biden has his finger in the honey pots of corruption all over the world, and the corrupt Dem Congress and IQ Community including the corrupt FBI / DOJ covers for him.

  10. It is not a matter of unilaterally selecting the president. It is a matter of resolving an issue over whether electors were valid (some clearly were not and a PA Court agreed with this; the same logic applied to other states). You do not get to pervert our laws.

  11. Are you stupid or dishonest. Read the statute. It is not one man. It involves the efforts of several men (signatures) and the entire house and Senate. Further, he is not just one man. He is a high level constitutional officer. You would make that statute meaningless. The whole thing is just a big ruse and the VP is just a rubber stamp or a clerk? That is stupid. Of course, there needs to be a way to resolve disputes and a statute exists providing that means. It is extremely offensive for a "man" like Raskin who invoked the same procedure in 2016 to now say it is illegal. It is worse than stupid. It is corrupt as hell. Obviously, normal law does not apply to Trump. Never has. You are a dishonest subversive propagandist.

  12. The DOJ has a proper role in insuring valid elections and it totally shirked its duty. Who would expect anything different given that it has spent years with that corrupt Russia nonsense doing Hillary's bidding who started the whole Russia lie. By the way corrupt Biden invoked the corrupt Russia nonsense as part of his campaign in one of the debates. Biden and Obama and the intelligence communities knew it was a corrupt Hillary dirty trick. The more you lie the more people will not trust elections.

  13. State legislatures have ultimate authority under our constitution over the election in their state. You have a problem with the Constitution? You are of course a traitor. The notion that no authority exists able to review the actions of local election officials is nuts. You advocate lawlessness.

  14. You know damn well that the merits were not reached in the vast bulk possibly all of those cases. An interesting question is who does have standing? I guess nobody. The Supreme Court expressly has authority to resolve disputes between states. A dozen or more states had disputes with other states who held illegal elections according to a bunch of credible attorney generals yet they did not have standing? I would say the Supreme Court did not do its duty. The standing doctrine was misused to avoid express constitutional jurisdiction. One can argue about that issue but suggesting that anything meaningful was decided by the Courts is a lie. This means you are a liar.

  15. Hey, dumb ass, Trump had legitimate reasons to doubt the legitimacy of the outcome. It is a flat out lie that there is no evidence of election fraud. There are legal procedures in place including objection to certification. Seems Trump is not entitled to any of legal procedures or protections available to others including the statute providing a mechanism to object to certification. There were legitimate objections including one validated by a Court in PA. Specifically, election procedures were changed without proper authority. The same people who now claim objection to certification is illegal invoked the procedure in 2016 (unsuccessfully) such as Raskin (who is clearly dishonest). The notion that the VP has no authority to resolve issues raised is not the law by both reason and lack of precedent. The procedure would be meaningless if that was the case. Regardless of what the supreme court might say one day, a disagreement over an issue of law does not a criminal make. And, the law does not give Pence unilateral authority. He should have referred the dispute to the proper authorities (the house, the senate, and in some instances a state tribunal).

  16. Jacob's presumably also familiar with this: "For false Christs and false prophets will arise, and they will show great signs and wonders so as to deceive and lead astray, if possible, even the elect. " trumps wearing a crown on the newest merch he's hawking, yall got false 'profits' lining your fat pockets, and far as I can see jacobs n pence and company are as much like like the ones Moses came off the mountain and smote for worshipping a gilt calf as they are like Daniel in the Lions Den..

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