On pardon question, White House says Trump has not done anything wrong



President Trump claims he could pardon himself, but the White House says he does not have to use that power because he hasn’t done anything wrong. Elana Schor from Politico joins CBSN to explain what it all means.

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  1. It was stupid for Giuliani to even talk with a hack like Stephanopoulos … someone with zero journalistic creditability. There is NO CRIME to pardon himself from. Mueller and his team of Democrats have spent 20 million dollars trying to find a crime and still none exist.

  2. The FitzJames-Alba family of Spain are a top bloodline in the global crime syndicate. Alba refers to the Alba's true origins in Alban Hills making them relatives of the Colonna family which ruled that region. The House of FitzJames became the Dukes of Alba through their de Silva bloodline which intermarried with the Alvarez family. Dona Maria Alvarez de Toledo of the House of Alba married Diego Colon the son of Christopher Columbus. James Fitz-James Stuart, 2nd Duke of Berwick married Catalina Ventura of Portugal-Columbus, 9th Duchess of Veragua and of La Vega. Christopher Columbus was really a Colonna and that is why the Columbus name often gets translated to Colon. Colonna and Columbus both mean column. The FitzJames family are both a cadet branch of the House of Alvarez and the Irish-Scottish House of Stuart. The city of Alba de Tormes is located in Salamanca which uses columns on its flag just as the House of Colonna use a column on their coat of arms. The Alban clans likely settled in Salamanca during Pope Alexander III's reign around 1175 when they built Roman cathedrals. They evolved the name Alba to Alva creating the name Alvarez which is a popular Spanish name and is also a noble bloodline of Spain. The Alvarez family ruled as the Dukes of Alba for over 300 years. Don Manuel Alvarez of Toledo and Mencos is the current Duke of Zaragoza. The Los Zetas Cartel were founded by Arturo Guzman Decena who was from Puebla, Mexico. Ignacio Zaragoza was a Mexican general that fought against the French at the Battle of Puebla. The House of FitzJames and their Alvarez cousins the Dukes of Zaragoza are the owners of the Los Zetas cartel. Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart the 18th Duchess of Alba and mother of Carlos was reported to be worth several billion. Their real wealth is concealed in private Swiss banks. The Fitz-James family own the Liria Palace in Madrid and Palace of the Duenas in Seville.

    Don Fernando Alvarez of Toledo, 3rd Duke of Alba was Governor of Milan and Viceroy of Naples. During his rule he made an agreement with the Pope known as the Treaty of Cavo which returned the town of Cavo, Lazio to the Colonna family after the Della Rovere Pope seized it from them. The Fitz-James House of Alba de Tormes is covertly working under the Colonna family even as Dukes in Spain. Many members of the Dukes of Alba have been involved in military and war. They have a harp on their coat of arms through their Scottish-Irish Stuart ancestry and this refers to an authority over the USAF's HAARP system which is used for mass mind manipulation in society and also for weather manipulation. In ancient times they used harps and poems for subtle mind control over populations. The harps and poems were designed to put people into a trance. The US Air Force's HAARP system is named in reference to their ancient harp mind control. Columbia University graduate Deborah Lee James was Secretary of the USAF until the recent Trump Administration and she was an agent of the House of Fitz-James. Deborah Lee James appointed Fitz-James agents to run the HAARP system which they still have some authority over today. They are using HAARP and other electronic systems as a weapon to mentally terrorize people. Members of the criminal Fitz-James and Alvarez bloodlines include Don Carlos Fitz-James Stuart the 19th Duke of Alba, Don Fernando Fitz-James Stuart the 15th Duke of Huescar, Don Alfonso Martinez Irujo and Fitz-James Stuart the Dukes of Hijar, Don Jacobo Fitz-James Stuart the 23rd Count of Siruela, Don Fernando Martinez Irujo and Fitz-James Stuart the 11th Marquis of San Vicente del Barco, Don Cayetano Martinez Irujo and Fitz-James Stuart the 4th Duke of Arjona and 13th Count of Salvatierra, Dona Maria Eugenia Martinez Irujo and Fitz-James Stuart the 12th Duchess of Montoro, Don Leoncio Alonso Gonzalez of Gregorio and Alvarez of Toledo the 22nd Duke of Medina Sidonia, and Don Manuel Alvarez of Toledo and Mencos the 5th Duke of Zaragoza.

    http://www.elmundo.es/loc/2015/11/30/565c3aa046163ff0428b457d.html

    Duke Carlos Fitz-James Stuart and his sons.

  3. This nonsense about Trump pardoning himself is just a way for Trump's advocates to test the political waters and see whether Congress and the public would tolerate a self-pardon by a crook. Trump may believe the Dept. of Justice cannot touch him, no matter what US laws he breaks, but many members of Congress believe otherwise. A self-pardon would be the equivalent of an admission of guilt. Trump and his advocates have not thought this through. If Trump starts firing people in the Dept. of Justice in order to appoint someone who will fire Mueller, this will be a highly public form of obstruction of justice. And Congress, the body that appointed Mueller to conduct the investigation, will not be pleased with Trump. The least damaging thing Trump can do right now is to just ignore Mueller's investigation and get on with presidential business. But we know Trump just cannot leave this alone. Trump knows Mueller's investigators now have lots of proof of Trump's wrong-doing and it just a matter of time before Mueller sends a report to Congress. Is there already a sealed indictment against Trump? Will the indictment be unsealed the moment Trump is out of office? Trump is acting like he knows the walls are closing in on him and he has no where to run.

  4. Under Article II, Section 2 of the constitution, the president can pardon eccept incases of impeachment. If the House impeaches Herr Trump, he cannot pardon himself. The Senate can remove Herr Trump from office, but if he sought to pardon himself, ot undo the Senate's power, he would be seeking to destroy the power of the Senate…

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