Stop using APT

Debian’s Package management is pretty old and archaic, so let’s fix it.

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45 thoughts on “Stop using APT

  1. You must pronounce Linux Mint sometimes. It's mandatory, because I'm a new Linux user, and I chose Linux Mint, and it's Debian based, and I need to feel included on the familly… 🙂

  2. What do you do when a distro that's been around as long as debian can't stop using apt?
    Who's the amateur jerk who maintains it?
    And why oh why does every distro need its own custom package format and toolkit in the first place?

  3. I've been using Debian (testing) for over 20 years. Most of this time I've used aptitude – mainly because solving dependency issues is easier there and also searching with basic regex is very convenient. But nala looks interesting – especially the history and undo functions, also the general readability. I'll give it a try.

  4. chris i need your help when i installed arch linux i was so happy to get the great performance but when i was installing some exe. games it wont let me launch when i was looking for fixes i saw command (apt, apt-get, dpkg and more) but when i try using any of these command it tells me command not found please i really need your help ❤❤❤❤

  5. Thank you Chris, this video just saved my bacon.

    I tried to install virt-manager and accidentally filled my root directory, resulting in a huge mess that I have no real understanding of. Trying to use "purge" started a 4000+ item dpkg process where the first item took fully 10 minutes.

    I'm sure I could have fixed this manually, but Nala's history undo feature did it quickly and thoroughly, saving me from a morning of frustrating, self-inflicted cleanup.

  6. If you’re using a headless server, yeah I suppose I get it (and frankly in my 15yrs using *nix I’ve never seen an update to vX.Y.Z of some package a said “No, not having that”)

    Otherwise, fastest mirrors? Hmmm ok it might be marginally faster….

    Meh… Update manager from the desktop works for me.

  7. Initial statement is incorrect. You just don't like Apt due to how it looks. The same issues you have with apt you have with nala. Dependencies are dependencies. The only thing nala has is it has an improved look and feel. It looks nicer but works exactly the same as apt. Period.

  8. I was getting 500ms with the default mirror, now I get 10ms, a 98% increase. Im definately keeping nala. I was able to grab it via backports repo instead.

  9. The biggest drawback in my opinion about apt is: when you install something that has a missing dependency, and you need to install that dependency yourself. There is no way to tell apt that the dependency you just installed is actually a requirement of the initial thing you installed. Then, if you uninstall the initial thing after some time, that darn dependency stays on your system because you obviously forgot the whole ordeal. This ends up bloating your system. Not just that, when you look at the list of all the things installed, those darn dependencies are in it and after some time you have no idea why you installed the darn things, and you don't want to uninstall any of them because it might end up breaking stuff.

    Also, i don't think that apt is 'too slow'.

    I use aptitude since the command output is a bit more slick

    I also wished you could torrent apt packages, so that the community could contribute to better distribution. Obviously, the hash to check the download would still need to be retrieved from a trusty source

  10. I don't recommend it at slower devices like raspberry pi – it took 15 min to run nala update while apt update took under 1min. Same for everything else. Also when updating python (nala uses python) upgrade broke and I had to repair installation using apt and dpkg.

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