Ford F-150 5.0 Coyote: Cam Timing Codes

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1. What power probe model are you using here? Thanks

2. So helpful! Looked at so many videos full of bad information. Really appreciate intelligent techs like you. Thank you!!

3. Vehicles are now way too complicated! I am a 80 year old engineer who does not like these modern vehicles!!!

4. Great info and explanation. Liked and subscribed!

5. That oil looked way too clean for having 4000 miles on it. Especially being conventional. I think it probably burned though some oil, threw the code from thrash in the solenoid, he went to the autozone for a code scan, googled it and saw “low oil” as a cause for the code and dumped some oil into it. Once that didn’t fix it, he threw it in your lap.
   Not that it matters now lol

6. Put synthetic oil in it solve the problem

7. As a life long Ford guy I will admit that they drop the ball w service recommendations. Maintenance is key. Thin oils run way too long. My 14 3.5 ecoboost has 320000 kilometers and has all original timing chains, phasers, and solenoids. No rattles no timing codes and truck has only ever had amsoil oil and filters.

8. 5w30 Pennzoil ultra platinum turned off all noises on my 2020 at 30k now . oztuned at 20k after break in with mc 5w20 semi synthetic for 20k changed pcv valve to new style .. now it is worth what I paid for 4 years ago 0 will loss, super quiet and 10r80 uses every gear ..now to change trans oil before 40k

9. I knew a mechanic from the neighborhood when I was young.
   Everytime I asked him about something on my car, he said…..I got a big hammer! 😂
   BTW….Thank You! I have a 2015 Platinum.
   A bit ago, I plugged in a tool and was looking at live data and saw my timing all over the place! I was freaking out!
   At idle, 5, 7, 10.5, to 16 degrees! But fluctuating back and forth, up and down the whole time?
   When rpms were upped and steady it advanced steady.
   That's how I ended up watching this video.
   I also saw someone elsewhere say that Ford controls the idle with timing?

10. I have a 2016 XLT 5.0 104kmi and have this same problem but not as bad (rough idle sometimes and stalls at idle when warm). Usually a fresh oil changes fixes it but seems to be getting worse with more miles.
    I assume 2015/2016 is same engine design (Video of solenoids looks like mine).?
    I am guessing I can't use a basic ODB scan tool to check (no check engine light)?
    Would incorrect cam phase cause higher engine temps?
    Could this also cause long crank before start when heat soaked?
    Would be nice to solve this on my own.
    Thanks in advance for any comments.

11. I am wondering if the connections corroded until they lost contact on the solenoids. You removed them and then re-installed them possibly clearing the corrosion.

12. I worked with PhD engineer who worked on Mobil 1 formulation. He told me conventional oil breakdown is apparent before 3000 miles. Told me to change oil every 2000.

13. We call it a LPS

14. MOST OF THE TIME I SEE SLUDGE DO TO LACK OF LOF CAUSING THIS

15. Just wanted to chime in on this a year later this is a very well broken down video. I’m currently in battles with my 2018 GT ford switched the design after 2018 to only one cam solenoid. I was stuck with the p0017 code and random misfires all on bank 1 I’ll be breaking it down tomorrow to replace the exhaust cam gear and get it retimed hopefully fix my issue !!! Thanks for the informative video though

16. Just went through a similar situation on my 2016 5.0 f150 at 70,000 miles. Huge headache and then once it's "fixed" you're not sure if it really is or not

17. My dealership is trying to charge me $2.6k to replace the solenoids but I check online and I can find solenoids for $50-$70 a piece. Can you guys tell me how much it costed to have all 4 solenoids replaced so I have an ideas? That price seems way too much

18. I think you demagnetized the solenoid which held Debry, allowing it to fall off and now function as it should. in due time, the debris will find its way back and recreate the issue. Just my opinion

19. Had an 04 Infiniti i35 with the VQ35DE. Had over 200k miles. It would throw vvt codes. Replaced gaskets, opened the sensors and cleaned them. Then changed the oil. Codes stayed off until 3k miles was up and I'd change the oil again and it would automatically clear the codes until it needed an oil change. Ive owned and sold over 200 cars and that was the only one that would throw a code when it was time for an oil change. Pretty sure it was coincidence, but clean fresh oil in the variable valve timing system is KEY

20. The 5.0 is the best engine Ford makes. It would be nice if they took care of all of the other issues they have and leave the 5.0 alone !

21. Would changing to synthetic oil help keep it a little cleaner?

22. Yup 2015 f 150 v8 yup same thing happen to me 120.000 km they did one side still happen stalling did other side all good they get stuck dirty oil 1800.00 later lol 50.00 each part and labour

23. The old way of defining cams , opening and closing , were always in crankshaft degrees..etc. What do all the scan tool measure in. An angle is angle. Is the scan data and the desired data for advance and retard in CAMSHAFT degrees, or in Crankshaft degrees ? The scan data never seems clear on this, units matter ! If you install one cam ,off by 1 tooth , and it had 36 teeth, would the scanner report 1/36 times 360= 10 degrees off, or would the scanner say 20 crank degrees off ?
    I just watched a mechanic video last week and 1 cam was offset alot…, but not any of the other 3 cams had a code.. The owner had replaced the cams prior to the mechanic getting a crack at it…The mechanic said it was chain stretch..I think it was a mistake on one cam phaser installation by owner.

24. Thanks for being a great, honest , and honorable mechanic !

25. In my 50 years as a mechanic start changing oil sooner than expected or start replacing parts😊

26. I'm having the same problem but mines comes & go

27. Just sell it

28. Change the oil but synthetic in it full synthetic, go out and drive it. You're probably fine, it's do just fihe's got One of two problems first one is the oil, Then if you have to change the Sensor change it, But I would change the oil first, I've seen this problem before on five later coyobecause people are too cheap to put Is good oil in them

29. Most likely he's got petroleum oil on it and the oil is too thick to actually operate the cam Phasers since I run on oil pressure, Oil change with a good synthetic like mobile one.
    Five twenty or five thirty and that will probably fix the problem

30. Learn something every day

31. Best diagnostics video I've seen in a while. Thanks

32. No solenoid should be faulty at 71k miles, what the hell ford?

33. Makes sense, hitting them with the power probe gave them a jump start, and possibly the exhaust one is on its way out, best to replace it as You said. Nice diag work!

34. I have forscan. I don’t know if there’s a way to turn on those solenoids with that and not hooking up wires. Like I said before I’m not very smart with all of this. I’m just asking because I’m very frustrated.

35. I know this is a dumb question. I’m absolutely no mechanic and am not smart with any of this. However I have a 19 f150 with a 5.0 with the same exact problem. How did you add power to activate the solenoids on my own so I can see if I can do the same thing on my own and then change my oil. Then if that doesn’t fix it I’ll have to get the solenoids replaced.

36. Broken solenoid connector causing poor connection?

37. had chev all my life..fu

38. I have seen That People use petroleum oil, It does not work as well as synthetic when you're dealing with oil pressure sensors and things of this nature of these types of engines, I have one I know mine has 218000 on it. And I've never had a normal pressure problem. Or anything like such as this? Because I use mobile one synthetic, And I have seen other people use petroleum oils, And they have problems. I would just tell the customer to use synthetic oil. And he'll have no more problems. The truck's gonna say 5-20 But I would put 10-30 Mobile one Synthetic

39. is the 15.2 volts on your scan tool what the alternator was running at ? 😮

40. I have a new bronco. I have access to two different owners manuals for my year model. One says engine oil capacity is 6qts the other says 7qts.
    So yeah, Ford sucks at sharing even the most basic info.

41. I seen another video same issue there was a piece of plastic lodged in the solenoid a piece of the solenoid had broken and jammed the ball bearing and locked it in low position on the rocker.

42. Your advice to not ever do engine flush is spot on but if anyone want to flush it to kill their engine, destroy the oil pump and regret it then go ahead. Oil and filter change is enough and modern oils are full of additives.

44. Gosh dam FoRd

45. What oil change interval wou l d you recomend for this ford vehicle

46. Lifters sounded awful LOUD.

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