In this video I share with you my frustration I encountered tracking down a battery draw on a Hyundai Genesis. I should have recorded the process but I was on and off the car so much through out the day it just wasn’t going to happen. I hope this video shows the importance of following your diagnostic plan and go with the facts you find along the way no matter what you will end up at the answer. -Enjoy!
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I am seeing the question a lot in the comments, "How (or did you) charge for this job?" Great question. I bill by the hour on diags. If it takes 5 hrs, I bill 5hrs. I have a 1hr minimum on all diags. I don't care what the end result is, even if it is the "just a fuse." Time is time. Fact is straight diagnosing is a losing proposition for shops from a business aspect. How so? If I bill 5hrs on a diag job and as in this case, no parts required I get 5hrs at $80 per/hr. that is $400 total. It takes a lot of thought, factory service info., expensive meters or equipment in some cases.
On the flip side let's say I do a full 4 wheel brake job in the same amount of time along with pads rotors and calipers. Now I have billed labor AND made profit on all of the parts. The work was easier, required less thought and made two to three times the profit for the shop.
So would a shop be right if they charged more for diagnostics? ABSOLUTELY! Fact is their diagnostic labor should be at least twice their hourly repair labor other wise they are losing money and time. Why waste time diagnosis a vehicle for half the profit you could make doing a simple brake job? As a shop owner who do you pay more, the general service tech changing brakes or the "A" Tech doing diags.? Why do you pay him more when he makes you less profit? Food for thought. Let me know how your shop charges. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
Wow!
Hello, I’m currently having this issue! My boyfriend has spent the last five hours. Trying to figure it out. He thinks he’s right on the nail with it, but we don’t have access to a wiring diagram. Would you mind sharing it? ðŸ˜ðŸ«¶ðŸ»
I just wish wish you were a garage here in our town then i could bragg we go a mechacic in our town you are definitely a gifted man and an awesome teacher enjoy watching your videos, get tired of NY we need a garage here in WA. State lol
Great job
Great find! Sucks to put in all that work I'm sure you'll be compensated
The Hyundai Genesis didn't want to take a mega drive. 😉
Hyundai engineers created a bad situation. They should make it impossible to add a fuse where it will cause a problem.
I suppose that fuse location is not shown in the wiring diagrams(?). Crazy engineering 🤔🙄
Excellent job! Damm right you bill by the hour, they brought it to you because they couldn't fix it. Sometimes people do dumb things that cost them money, it should Never cost you money, you're running a company.
Very impressive. You mentioned that the factory diagrams were correct. You would think the factory diagrams should be the definitive standard for any test results. Do they ever have mistakes or misleading info?
Great diag skills. You found a hidden treasure in a 15 Amp fuse to nowhere. That would have driven me insane.
I appreciate you taking the time to recreate the troubleshooting process. If the customer is frustrated by the cost, think about the boat anchor they'd be left with after taking it to three or four shops with the same boat anchor to sit on their lot that he can't sell. I doubt anyone could have figured it out quicker unless it was a dealership that might have had a similar deal recently enough for someone to remember. You are my auto repair GURU!
Once again I love the way you prove everything. This is the way I fix. This avoids the parts cannon and really provides satisfaction once you've proven it. See! Broken! Now it's fixed. Gotta swing by and see you when we visit Corning.
Is no one going to ask? What did that fuse power? Were there any functions lost once removong it?
Good job man
I have the same problem but my car doesn't have that fuse and still drained the battery 😪 😩
Such a weird problem. Well done finding the issue!
Awesome video. Very educational. You're a smart man. Thank you for the knowledge
When you think you've seen it all… you haven't. Good troubleshooting.
You're a genius! And…WHY was putting a fuse in there capable of causing the short??!
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Nice troubleshooting Eric
Lol. Been there. Great video. ðŸ‘
Excellent!
Wow, excellent diagnosis! Would that be considered a flaw from the auto manufacturer, having that blank fuse slot actually making connections that cause problems in other circuits? I thought a blank fuse slot would not normally have connectors in it that actually connect to circuits. I thought they were normally just a dummy slot with no connectivity.
Wow good video ðŸ‘😎
I swear you the man had this problem for awhile just pulled it and everything is back to normal dude hope both sides of your pillow stays cold love man much love
But why is that fuse hot what's its purpose someone added the other leg for that fuse to be hot?
You are Fantastic!! That was incredible! YOU ARE AMAZING!! GREAT GREAT VIDEO ON A PARASITIC DRAW!!
Got a 2015 Genesis… Died 2nights straight. Hadn't happened before the dealership replaced some fuse for a recall. Definitely gonna check this. Thank you
Thank you so much!!! This video is awesome!!!
This is an awsome video, i laughed so hard. Thank you for posting and knowing this is amazing.
Great diag. I have a Genesis with a battery drain.
Just bought a 2013 Genesis 5.0 and this solved my issue! Exact same fuse!!
Absolutely amazing. You definitely have a gift for automotive electronics
Man I have the same finggggg problem same story on the same car I hope it solves my problem I’ll test it tomorrow thank you a million for the video
You are an incredible mechanic!
I am about to go out and look at that fuse in my 4.6! I have been having an intermittent issue where the car just dies and doesnt want to turn back on AT ALL!
Thanks so much for this video. Just bought one from the auction with this EXACT issue. I contemplated running it back thru the auction because I hate electical. Everything would continue working when the ign was off, & if it sat for more than a night, the battery would drain. Thanks again for sharing. Now I can sale this thing ðŸ˜
Like your work no doubt it would be great to get my car fixed by you .
Another outstanding teaching video. Not many can troubleshoot as well but even fewer can demonstrate the process as clearly. Informative and instructive videos that keep me watching.
just think if you did the tecnique where you pull fuses one at a time time till amps drop this would had you look at the fuse box legend to see what circuit that fuse goes to and seen that fuse doesnt belong in about 3 minutes of work,ouch!
I love following your electrical diagnostic thought pathways. Am learning so much and realizing that you follow common sense and logic, where a lot of shops don't. They just keep changing parts until they fix it or they don't. Great work Eric. Please keep the videos coming.
I love it you are the man I just learned a ton of info , fantastic thank you
What do you think of these cars?
OK so first I must say, YOU my friend I would love to give a big hug and buy you a 12 pack of beer as You made my day wonderful! Not only did you save me approx. 6 hours of a nightmare and I probably wouldn't have figured it out the actual problem in the end AND my new boss wouldn't be happy with me except for a bunch of things i've already done for him which he didn't agree with at first but later he was amazed with my idea. So he asked me to attempt to fix his 2012 Hyundai V-8, loaded to the hilt, not the Genesis but the other one (cant remember the name at the moment) and this thing was messed up! The keyless entry refused to work at all, the cars display remained on with the key off, the air bag suspension completely collapsed and my boss has been out of a car for over a month! He had two people attempt to fix it with NO luck! So after I tell him I have a lot of experience deep in dashboards he got a big smile when asking me, "Do you think you might be able to fix my car?" "Because I would love you if could actually fix it!" So he has it brought back from the auto repair place as it did drain the batt but could drive with a new battery. So after awhile of me working on it he came out to see how I was doing. Now I will give myself credit just for knowing that sometimes You Tube will totally solve your problem on the car you are working on, but seriously, This one was AMAZING! Thank You so MUCH! I respect how you took your time to literally take us through the experience which I would have probably missed a couple of the diagnosis things you did and I would have been so fruustrated and given up on eventually! So I kept watching your video as it was very informative even though It wasn't the same model I was working on and it had different problems like your screen didnt come on always so it may not be the fix for me but I watched it through and my boss comes out and says , man are you seriously sitting down in my car watching You Tube videos? Really? And I said , "Yup!" and even though I have not actually finished the video but am at the fuse conclusion and again it's not the same model of car AND at that point I have done nothing to the car but open the fuse box, I stood up walked over to the hood and said,"And I may have actually solved your problem" I looked down at that fuse location with my amazement saw it had a fuse in it! I pulled the darn fuse and right then he had already grabbed the key fob and he hits it… WHAM! Car is fixed! Talk about someone that loves his new found employee!!! That fixed what was like 12 codes and multiple problems!! The car was perfect after pulling the fuse! I am so thankful as I am only an honest mechanic who wanted to be successful in fixing the problem! Boss asked me what I wanted to be paid for that and went on to say "I would have paid thousands to make the problem go away!" , so I said $50 would be reasonable as that is what he had already given me the day before for parts money! No matter what money I would have made I probably wouldn't have fixed it and that is the nightmare I would have endured if YOU my friend had not spent your valuable time to make this video and if I didn't know how important it can be sometimes to look on You Tube about complicated or simple fix'! Again thank You as you made my day great today here in Tucson Arizona on 01/10/2022! Namaste, CH. Thumbs up and Subscribe as I did! See my channel as well as I deal with actual news and wonderful conspiracy theories, which most of them turn out to be true facts!
Wonder what that fuse position was originally intended to do. Perhaps supply equipment not fitted to that individual car. Might be an idea to fit a blown fuse in that spot to prevent helpful people popping a fuse in just because. Good diagnosis.