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In an interview for the FRONTLINE documentary “Putin’s Road to War,” Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute shares her take on Vladimir Putin’s decision-making in the lead-up to the war on Ukraine.

“This was a miscalculation of Napoleonic magnitude,” she tells FRONTLINE. “And one of the things we should be worried about now is Vladimir Putin being a rat trapped in a corner and willing to do lots of damage to everything else on his way to failure.”

Schake is the director of foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. She previously served at the U.S. State Department, the Department of Defense and the National Security Council. She is the author of several books, most recently “America vs the West: Can the Liberal World Order Be Preserved?”

The following interview was conducted by FRONTLINE’s Mike Wiser on March 4, 2022. It has been edited for clarity and length.

“Putin’s Road to War” premieres March 15, 2022. Watch the trailer now: https://youtu.be/EaUefbpmV08

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26 thoughts on “Putin’s Road to War: Kori Schake (interview) | FRONTLINE

  1. Putin’s staged theater of being ‘pushed’ into war by his advisors echoes the narrative crafted around Hirohito as a reluctant participant in the attack on Pearl Harbor. It’s easy to imagine Putin using that case as a model, laying groundwork to deflect responsibility if he ever faced an ICC trial or future judgment.

  2. Showing love Kori 🫱🏼‍🫲🏾
    Your speech is soft and easy on the ears. So its strangely nice to hear such a heavy, real topic in a smooth, gentle manner. And the smirk just compliments the whole thing…

  3. Putin is deterable. Most of his inner circle appears to be as vain as it is criminal.

    Unfortunately for the present lack of courage in the USA, these are the type of people you have to threaten to destroy (and it has to be a valid threat), to get them to back down.

    No rhetoric. No "we're trying to avoid World War III". The former is becoming an obsolete "art" (it's preposterous that it's labeled as such), and the latter just produces more Russian nuclear threats.

    🤷‍♂️ Somebody's going to have to start threatening back, instead of promoting ongoing fear (and even admiration, from some camps) of Vladimir Putin's self esteem problem…

  4. Russian Imperialism… Putin intends to steal Ukraine's economic resources and enslave the population. To rape Ukraine. Much like Stalin, and Putin admires this evil monster. His reasoning has nothing to do NATO expansionism, that is simply propaganda. Everyone, including the Russian dictator, knows NATO is a 'Defensive Alliance.'

  5. Kori failed to convey why Trump threatened to remove troops from NATO countries. Simply enough, NATO wasn’t contributing their required dues to NATO and why should they with Uncle Sam there to protect them?

  6. Putin is, in Poker terms, All In! He wants to reconstitute the Soviet Union and make his mark on History as Putin the Great, but i fear the reason for urgency by Putin is he has gotten and bad medical report and he knows his days are numbered

  7. A brilliant, concise summary by Kori Schake of the Russia-Ukraine war.

    It seems clear that the Russian leader has become unhinged and is leading his people badly astray.

  8. yes, freedom on the press in a free society which can report/ expose local & foreign governments can be exploited
    by a communist regime. Their control of News/information insulates, taking their society out of the family of nations, thereby retarding civilizations’ growth and development. Sad. Retrogressive.

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